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BADDASSC6 05-18-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 51769)
I'm not talking about the weight, I'm talking about the additional heat that the engine sees because of the supercharger. It would be like you running your Vette with the temp outside being over 200 degrees. My Cobra spends the whole time between 4000 and 6000. How is that any different?

Really, you think you are that much better of a driver than I am? What times did you run at CSW with your old Mustang?

Never ran the mustang at CSW I grew up and went to college in AZ. I have been sub 2:00 in a stock base model C5. Yes I really do think I'm that much better of a driver than you. Not a diss , I have my process down. I can make adjustments and drop huge chunks of time. I video review and usually drop five seconds on my second visit. Its all about being critial about everything.

big_G 05-18-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 51768)
I've always been interested in the city of Austin. Naturally I'll have to drive to make sure you know what you're talking about. :judge:

Of course!

94cobra69ss396 05-18-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 51773)
Never ran the mustang at CSW I grew up and went to college in AZ. I have been sub 2:00 in a stock base model C5. Yes I really do think I'm that much better of a driver than you. Not a diss , I have my process down. I can make adjustments and drop huge chunks of time. I video review and usually drop five seconds on my second visit. Its all about being critial about everything.

I'll admit that you have more experience on a road course but I definately will not agree that you are a better driver. I haven't driven a Vette so I couldn't tell you what I could run with one. What was your time in said C5? What was done to it? I know it wasn't completely stock. What tires, springs, shocks, brakes, etc.? What was the alignment set to?

You drop 5 seconds on your second visit to a track. Well I've only run at Fontana once but I dropped over 3 seconds from my best in the first session to my best in the fourth session. I went from a best of 2:05.827 in the first to a 2:02.509 in the fourth. I also found out that my rear brakes were barely working which explains why I had to give it everything I had to slow down from 128 going into turn 3.

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 51773)
Third place TTU overall 2009 with only three completed events (lost a few when the rim broke, the clutch slave cylinder broke and finally the engine). Running R888s in a full slick class.

Only three races. That's still more than every one but 1,2 and 4th. I guess it's a good thing Darrin Griffin only ran 2 because going by his record he would have had 300 points if he'd run a third event. :pot_stir:

Free, Terry TTU 548 85 85 90 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 90 1150 1st 1150
Carter, Christopher TTU 57 90 90 90 90 90 85 90 85 90 100 100 100 1100 2nd 1100
Jorge, Carlos TTU 754 90 85 90 265 3rd 265
Griffin, Darrin TTU 981 80 75 85 240 4th 240
Pinholster, Michael TTU 04 100 100 200 5th 200
Meynet, J.C. TTU 33 90 100 190 6th 190
Hope, Andy TTU 1 90 90 180 7th 180
McNett, TC TTU 33 85 80 165 8th 165
Groth, Claus TTU 218 100 100 9th 100
Evanson, Tage TTU 17 100 100 9th 100
Salvaggio, Karen TTU 28 90 90 11th 90
Bowles, Gian TTU 47 75 75 12th 75

Vettezuki 05-18-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 51775)
I'll admit that you have more experience on a road course but I definately will not agree that you are a better driver. I haven't driven a Vette so I couldn't tell you what I could run with one. What was your time in said C5? What was done to it? I know it wasn't completely stock. What tires, springs, shocks, brakes, etc.? What was the alignment set to?

This is all speculation and guessing. I'd be curious to see you two run in spec cars, like Miatas, then switch cars, at a track neither of you have been to and see who averages what. With Carlos experience and training he should be faster and that'd be my guess, but the spread :huh: But unless we can do that kind of test, too many parameters that don't map well.

enkeivette 05-18-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 51748)
Again, it's a nice motor. That's the first thing I said. As far as not talking about YOUR motor; can you remind me what kind of power it made? I'm going to start searching for that Enkievette dyno chart or 1/4 mile video, because I know this cannot be the old Enkievette (aka. Motorgen benchracing king). Wasn't there a replaced piston in that thing. How much racing did you get out of it before it failed?

Hahaha. Yes, blew a piston. Problem was I hadn't yet tuned the carb. It went to prob 16:1 AFR at 6K rpm with 13lbs of boost. Now that I have an LM2 and I can actually tune what I've built, that will never happen again.

But it cost me $85 to replace that forged piston and $10 to recoat the MLS. Not a major catastrophy, just a PITA. And it had nothing to do with the quality of the build, just a lack of patience on my part. Shouldn't have put my foot into it till I knew what was going on.

Your shop could have built your expensive LS motor and then blew it up on the dyno if they were as impatient as I was. That was my bad, not my motors.




And it is a nice motor. I just got home from a drive, nailed it in 3rd. Damn that thing is fast. I don't know how you guys shift these high hp cars. I could shift at 5K one time and 7K the next, it revs up too quick, even in third.


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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 51748)
(you'll learn this when you start your second semester of law school)

I really hope for your sake that was a joke.

enkeivette 05-18-2010 11:41 PM

Baddass, you keep crying about my dynoing or dragging my car. If I do it this summer, I think you need to take me around a road course in your C6. So I can see that you're not all talk too.

Yeah, that's the reason I want to go.

enkeivette 05-18-2010 11:44 PM

For the record I'm faster that all yall. Cuz I know how to double clutch and shift seven times in a drag race like Brain Walker did in Fast and the Furious.

BADDASSC6 05-19-2010 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 51775)
I'll admit that you have more experience on a road course but I definately will not agree that you are a better driver. I haven't driven a Vette so I couldn't tell you what I could run with one. What was your time in said C5? What was done to it? I know it wasn't completely stock. What tires, springs, shocks, brakes, etc.? What was the alignment set to?

You drop 5 seconds on your second visit to a track. Well I've only run at Fontana once but I dropped over 3 seconds from my best in the first session to my best in the fourth session. I went from a best of 2:05.827 in the first to a 2:02.509 in the fourth. I also found out that my rear brakes were barely working which explains why I had to give it everything I had to slow down from 128 going into turn 3.



Only three races. That's still more than every one but 1,2 and 4th. I guess it's a good thing Darrin Griffin only ran 2 because going by his record he would have had 300 points if he'd run a third event. :pot_stir:

Free, Terry TTU 548 85 85 90 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 90 1150 1st 1150
Carter, Christopher TTU 57 90 90 90 90 90 85 90 85 90 100 100 100 1100 2nd 1100
Jorge, Carlos TTU 754 90 85 90 265 3rd 265
Griffin, Darrin TTU 981 80 75 85 240 4th 240
Pinholster, Michael TTU 04 100 100 200 5th 200
Meynet, J.C. TTU 33 90 100 190 6th 190
Hope, Andy TTU 1 90 90 180 7th 180
McNett, TC TTU 33 85 80 165 8th 165
Groth, Claus TTU 218 100 100 9th 100
Evanson, Tage TTU 17 100 100 9th 100
Salvaggio, Karen TTU 28 90 90 11th 90
Bowles, Gian TTU 47 75 75 12th 75

Darrin ran just as many racing as I did. In your eagernees to talk shit you mis counted. Also, Regardless of the number of races I ran I still never they were all top three finishes. Again in 2010 I'm hoping for another three races ( on Hoosiers)lets see where I finish.

94cobra69ss396 05-19-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 51787)
Darrin ran just as many racing as I did. In your eagernees to talk shit you mis counted. Also, Regardless of the number of races I ran I still never they were all top three finishes. Again in 2010 I'm hoping for another three races ( on Hoosiers)lets see where I finish.

Sorry, I meant Michael Pinholster. I'm not trying to say you're not a good driver but I do think I'm good and I don't think you are "that much better" than I am. I'm not trying to be conceited. I actually think that that both Phil and I are really good drivers and I think the reason is because of the different types of driving and vehicles we have driven like dirt bikes, street bikes, prerunners, 4 wheel drives, drag racing, road racing, high spirited street driving, etc.

You didn't answer my questions about the C5. What was done to it and what time did you run?

big_G 05-19-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 51778)
And it is a nice motor. I just got home from a drive, nailed it in 3rd. Damn that thing is fast. I don't know how you guys shift these high hp cars. I could shift at 5K one time and 7K the next, it revs up too quick, even in third.

You need to get the fuel system right and get a dyno run....You have a strong motor...and inquiring minds want to know...lol. You have a shift light?...just shift when you see the light. Now my winter's project will be beefing up the rear end, and going to an all electric 4L80 trans. I will program in the shift feel and rpm's.


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