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BADDASSC6 08-23-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 120167)
Ferrari has had e-diffs for a while (at least 430?), but the Japanese have had AWD trickery since the 90s that was pretty sophisticated AFIK.

AWD since the 90's yes, but I haven't drank the Kool-Aid on AWD yet. Now electronic differentials are fairly new. Evo was the first that I know of. Subaru still doesn't us it.

Now having driven both. Evos rotate great and pretty much do what you tell them. Lets say you put some stiffer sway bars on an Evo. Still handles great first time out. The stability system measures the drivers inputs and senses the cars motion and make then match.

Subaru don't measure the drivers input. The mechanical differentials will do what ever they are going to do. Slap some sway-bars on a subaru and if they are good then the car will handle well if not it will go to shit. Regardless plan on having to adjust air pressures, alignment,...........

BADDASSC6 08-23-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 120132)
No harm in trying, the trans is the weak link but there might be a 3link...

You could get one of those fancy Nitrous kits that sprays off the line and automatically cut when the boost builds.

Running 9's is not easy though. Even with lots of money. Ron what mods are you doing to the Chevelle?

Shaolin Crane 08-23-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 120203)
You could get one of those fancy Nitrous kits that sprays off the line and automatically cut when the boost builds.

Running 9's is not easy though. Even with lots of money. Ron what mods are you doing to the Chevelle?

wouldn't need it. With how the blower is set up I made 11lbs by 3200. I'll use meth for the extra fuel though.

BADDASSC6 08-23-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 120233)
wouldn't need it. With how the blower is set up I made 11lbs by 3200. I'll use meth for the extra fuel though.

11lbm by 3200 rpm. Is that good? Hopefully you are making some decent power before 11 lbm a of boost.

Shaolin Crane 08-23-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 120236)
11lbm by 3200 rpm. Is that good? Hopefully you are making some decent power before 11 lbm a of boost.

Yes, peak boost is around 15psi so I won't need off the line grunt, we'll see exactly, last time we couldn't make a clean pass, had some timing issues and compression issues. However Ron and I made identical power, but he's a 347. it'll have less under the curve but much more HP

fiveohwblow 08-23-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 120162)
There is no basis to say a car is fast if it hasn't been to the track. To many of these young bitches think just bolting up parts makes cars fast, but the cars never get sorted out. Again, I've never seen a fast NSX at the track. I've seen NSX's with Comptech Superchargers, mugen everything, and Endless brake get handled by EG civics with H22a or K20 motor swaps.
Yes the new vette has a lot more user aids than the C6. The base C7 pulls 1.08g on a skid pad, goes 60 in 3.8 secs, and traps 117 from the factory. The electronic differential is awesome. They first came on Evo's and GTR's, but now Ferrari and GM are using them. Huge difference. When the funds are available I will get a TORSEN for my Corvette. I instantly noticed it on the stang.
If the new Z model has a dual clutch transmission I will have to rob a bank.

No basis from one mans perspective, not another's. many don't care to go to a timed event and would rather just enjoy the butt dyno or risk a street competition. In no way does this designate a car slow or "not fast"

That said, I sadly report the fastest cars I have been in were mostly mustangs from my local clubs. I've been in and driven variants of other cars from exotics to Gm's but none of them were wildly
Modified.

94cobra69ss396 08-23-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 120203)
Ron what mods are you doing to the Chevelle?

I'm currently running a 1.6 rocker ratio and will be going to a 1.8. With the 1.6 rocker my lift is only .585. With a 1.8 my lift will be .658. I'm also going with an X-pipe and better flowing mufflers. The final change will be tuning the nitrous kit on a dyno. With the 250 jets I think the AFR is too rich which is causing a slight bog off the line. I think I can pick up my .01 from those changes.


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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 120237)
Yes, peak boost is around 15psi so I won't need off the line grunt, we'll see exactly, last time we couldn't make a clean pass, had some timing issues and compression issues. However Ron and I made identical power, but he's a 347. it'll have less under the curve but much more HP

That was before I fixed everything. I made 22 rwtq more than you when we both went and I'm making an additional 35 rwtq now.

94cobra69ss396 08-23-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fiveohwblow (Post 120240)
No basis from one mans perspective, not another's. many don't care to go to a timed event and would rather just enjoy the butt dyno or risk a street competition. In no way does this designate a car slow or "not fast"

That said, I sadly report the fastest cars I have been in were mostly mustangs from my local clubs. I've been in and driven variants of other cars from exotics to Gm's but none of them were wildly
Modified.

My Chevelle is the fastest car I've been in. My brother had a friend with an all steel '55 Chevy that use to run 9 flat up at LACR. It would pulled the front wheels on the street. He rode in it once and said the launch was like getting hit in the chest, it was hard to breath. And that was their slow car. His dad had a twin turbo Anglia that ran in the 7s.

BADDASSC6 08-23-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fiveohwblow (Post 120240)
No basis from one mans perspective, not another's. many don't care to go to a timed event and would rather just enjoy the butt dyno or risk a street competition. In no way does this designate a car slow or "not fast"

That said, I sadly report the fastest cars I have been in were mostly mustangs from my local clubs. I've been in and driven variants of other cars from exotics to Gm's but none of them were wildly
Modified.

And that's the problem. Perspective. Yup how many FAST cars with tons of horsepower have you seen go to the track and run shit numbers?

Way too many to count.

Perspective it bullshit. It's like saying you're the coolest man in you own tiny little world. Yeah you're cool, .........faggot. Butt dyno = Bullshit; Actual dynos are even bullshit to an extent. They are only an indicator of what a car is theoretically capable of, but it's not actually doing shit.

My actual point is though. When you bought your fox did you buy it because you read about it in a magazine or because you knew guys were running them at the track and they performed?

In the case of the NSX: guys swear by them, but when was the last time you went out and saw one do better than mid-pack? Guys like me will go to a car meet, car show, tuning shop and see a NSX all done up. I will say to the owner "Hey man nice car" they will say "thanks whats is your car". When I tell then it's a vette then here comes the I smoke those all the time bullshit. Same thing with the S2k crowd the Subaru's.

Vettezuki 08-23-2013 06:03 PM

What is "fast" at the strip?
What is "fast" at the Roval, Willow Springs, etc.?


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