Motor Trend 11 car drag race
 

where's the lambos? ZR1?

I noticed the cars with manual transmission were in the rear for the most part.

Bob

There was an R8 (R8=Gallardo). The ZR1 should have been there. It probably wouldn't come in first, but it would be ~6 mph faster than all the other cars.

Just goes to show how much of a home run Nissan has hit with this years updated GTR.

In that its a hideously styled computer on wheels that uses electronics to be fast regardless of driving talent? yes. Fast? unquestionably. A home run? eh....

:D

Any bunch of monkeys can build a merely fast car. A car grandma can get in and be fast around corners, now that requires some technical ability. To make that car reliable and sturdy is another level. To do it at a price that is a fraction of the cars it manhandles means it's fu**ing Godzilla bitches. ;)

A little better head to head 11 ZO6 vs. 12 GT-R. In a straight high speed run the vette is gonna be the winner (I think). But it's pretty clear, for real world sporty street driving, in factory trim, the GT-R is no joke and a serious value.

The ZR1 should have been in there over the Z06!!!

The ZR1 does a Quarter mile in 11.2sec...so it should have been neck to neck with the GT-R.

And I know this race shouldn't be taken seriously lol...just like the video Vette posted lol

I doubt those were professional drivers in those cars.

I'll take a vette over a GT-R ANY day. Why you ask? i like that i can have parts available in an hour, i dont have to pay through the nose for machine work, not to mention, the corvette is oh so much sexier

BINGO! :drink:

We have 3 at my dealership :)

Well if you're giving them away i'll take a white one ;)

GT-R's are amazing. The LF-A is overpriced. I want a Z06.

I'd take the GTR over a Vette. The bang for the buck is much better. I'd still like to have at least a Z06 as well.

I think for going fast in most real world street circumstances (other than a freeway roll maybe) the GT-R is gonna be faster a lot of the time. But I kinda get the impression it is (or was anyway) a bit numb to drive, just not a lot of engagement. Stupid easy to go stupid fast . . . but a bit dull in some sense. The thing I love about my H&C LSx C3 is that it's reasonably fast, but a hoot to drive. Literally the only thing approaching a driver aid is vaccuum assisted power brakes, that's it. It kinda does what you tell it, mixed in with what it decides to do thanks to 60s era rear suspension design. :smack:

Z please

If price wasn't a factor it would be ZR1>GT-R>ZO6. With value considered it's GT-R>ZR1>ZO6.

My $.02, Z06/Z07>Zr1>GTR, value or performance. The only issue with vettes are that if you want to get close to what it's really capable of you have to get out and drive for real on tracks. Not some street bullshit. GTRs not so. The computer does it for you, but you will not be able to catch a Z with a good driver.

How much is that "package" though? I bet by the time it's all said and done, you're looking at least $150k.

and for an 8 second GTR? youre looking at uh....nevermind, there isnt one :P

(Fastest street GTR is the AMS Alpha 10, which is a $64,000 package on top of your 90k GTR. which runs low 9s, last I had heard, and does not do so on pump gas. )

The only comparisons that really ever made much sense to me for understanding root value is showroom floor to showroom floor, same track, same weather, best drivers (or same pro) for each. After that it enters la la land pretty quick where anyone can make whatever case they want with enough time and money. That's why for the 2012 GT-R vs. Vette the Hot Laps at Laguna Seca are quite telling where the car's stock performance envelopes are and the Z is pretty far ahead at a non-trivial 2 seconds/lap. However, roll up to your local street legals, and the average amateur in a GT-R is going to beat the average Vette the majority of the time I'd bet.

The racing I like is either spec, where the cars are virtually identical and over the course of a season you can honesty have a good idea of who the better team is (human element) because you've largely controlled for hardware. On the other end, and there isn't any of it any more, is profile spec racing, which says it just has to be within a certain footprint but otherwise you can do ANYTHING. That only lasted a couple years because Porsche prison raped everyone else.

The Finns have a fun ralley concept for working class people where it is dollar spec. The idea is you can run anything as long as you spend no more than $2,500 (don't remember the actual amount) on the whole car. After a race, ANYONE can look at your car and if they call bs you have to trade with them. Interesting idea.

As far as I can tell for the most of the real world in racing, it effectively comes down to a test of hardware because the drivers for the most part are so good, the winning margins are going to come from equipment. :huh: This certainly seems to be the case in F1 where a recent dominating champion can move to another team and quickly be down the leader board.

probably not a package, but that car does it NA, likely through a very roudy cam and head work, still i would imagine even if that was a fully loaded Z06 at 98k it wouldnt be 50k deep into the engine for those speeds

Meet the Alpha 12.


The Z is on 93 octane which is NOT standard pump gas in CA and many other states, plus it has a Meth Kit further effectively raising resistance to detonation. It has a huge cam and open exhaust, and possibly though it doesn't say a higher stall converter. That doesn't sound like that much fun to drive much on the street. It also has to do a burnout on drag radials. The GT-R rolls up and launches. See how this goes?

Plus the trans work and suspension. There is no way stock parts are going to even come slose to handling that.

Another reason I'd take a GTR over a Vette is that so many people have Vettes now. You rarely see GTRs running around.

Stock block would easily handle that, and its no new thing to see stock a beefed up IRS do 8's, hell they were doing that in the C5 vettes.

Of course i'll have no where near enough money to own a C6Z for a long time but a very basic break down doesnt put it near the cost you're talking about

I just think the gtr is fucking ugly, i see them more than vettes now a days too, there are 4 within a 3 mile radius of my girlfriends house and i see them EVERYDAY on the way home from my girlfriends house

That Vette isn't n/a, it has a A&A blower on it.

Oh and my price guess was buying the Z06 and then making it run 8s.