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SeanPlunk 01-02-2010 06:52 PM

The Supra is faster than any LS1.
 
Per wikipedia :lmfao:


enkeivette 01-02-2010 07:31 PM

Weren't they just as fast? I know a Z28 pulled off a 12.9, wasn't the Supra 13 flat or 12.9 or something like that?

SeanPlunk 01-02-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 41521)
Weren't they just as fast? I know a Z28 pulled off a 12.9, wasn't the Supra 13 flat or 12.9 or something like that?

Stock for stock an LS1 Vette for sure would be quicker than a stock Supra. I think someone was just having a little fun editing and it hasn't been changed yet :thumbs_up:

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 01-03-2010 09:16 PM

so wat where the times for the ls1, vette, camaro, ws6, and gto, and wat was the real time of a 1994 supra TT? im a lil curious of this and then just for run wat is the time for a 1993+ rx-7, 1996 or 1997 3000gt vr4, and the 1993 300zx TT? which was faster?

SeanPlunk 01-03-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* (Post 41570)
so wat where the times for the ls1, vette, camaro, ws6, and gto, and wat was the real time of a 1994 supra TT? im a lil curious of this and then just for run wat is the time for a 1993+ rx-7, 1996 or 1997 3000gt vr4, and the 1993 300zx TT? which was faster?

I believe all of those are mid 13 second cars stock on average. I know an LS1 Vette could run 12's.

enkeivette 01-03-2010 10:14 PM

Z28 with a 6 speed ran a 12.9, stock tires, stock everything down to the muffler.

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 01-03-2010 10:25 PM

oh wow i never knew that? a z28 is like a 98 camaro right? my friend had that but maybe he was a bad driver which explains y he was slower then what u said hahaha

enkeivette 01-03-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* (Post 41589)
oh wow i never knew that? a z28 is like a 98 camaro right? my friend had that but maybe he was a bad driver which explains y he was slower then what u said hahaha

For sure, that was with a professional driver if I remember correctly. You could own that car your whole life and never break 13. Sean had one and his best was 13.4 I think.

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 01-03-2010 10:49 PM

ohh ok ya he would always get 13.4's. i guess it comes with rwd car's.

heyitsdatguy 01-04-2010 12:05 PM

I don't know too much about the 93-98 supras, but I believe the HP rating that is shown is incorrect. It's 280HP in japan(gentlemen's agreement) and in some other countries it's 320HP. If I remember correctly, the 89-92 twin-turbo ran mid 13's and the 93-98 ran mid to high 12's. I got to find some links.

- Dawly

SeanPlunk 01-04-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by heyitsdatguy (Post 41629)
I don't know too much about the 93-98 supras, but I believe the HP rating that is shown is incorrect. It's 280HP in japan(gentlemen's agreement) and in some other countries it's 320HP. If I remember correctly, the 89-92 twin-turbo ran mid 13's and the 93-98 ran mid to high 12's. I got to find some links.

- Dawly

I believe the MKIV's were 320 in the States, but I've never heard of one running in the 12's stock. I found an old magazine article from the mid/early 90's with a tuner Supra running 13.1 though.

heyitsdatguy 01-06-2010 05:34 PM

You are correct. I found the link. The stock MKIV supras ran 13.3(export model) and 13.8 japanland model.

http://www.mkiv.co.nz/specs.htm

edit - weird how the japland model had less HP and more TQ though.

Vettezuki 01-06-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by heyitsdatguy (Post 41859)
You are correct. I found the link. The stock MKIV supras ran 13.3(export model) and 13.8 japanland model.

http://www.mkiv.co.nz/specs.htm

edit - weird how the japland model had less HP and more TQ though.

It was the time period when they had relatively serious street/mountain racing issues. The manufacturers had their "gentleman's agreement". Now the great thing about Japan is that there is the "appearance of things" and "the way they are." I don't know about the Supra specifically, but the Evo you could buy, just about literally drive around the corner and pop in the big boy tune and you were literally off to the races.

Now though, at least on the GT-R they integrate GPS into the ECM. There's a top speed governor (like 100 or so) when outside of race tracks. Drive onto a racetrack and poof, limiter automatically removed.

Ultraperio 02-11-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heyitsdatguy (Post 41629)
I don't know too much about the 93-98 supras, but I believe the HP rating that is shown is incorrect. It's 280HP in japan(gentlemen's agreement) and in some other countries it's 320HP. If I remember correctly, the 89-92 twin-turbo ran mid 13's and the 93-98 ran mid to high 12's. I got to find some links.

- Dawly

The Mk3 1jz JDM supra ran in the mid 14's. The USDM 7m supras were high 14 low 15 second cars. There was no stock Mk3 supra that could break into the 13's.

The USDM Mk4 supra (320hp) ran a mid 13. No stock Mk4 supra could break into the 12's.

SeanPlunk 02-11-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultraperio (Post 44878)
The Mk3 1jz JDM supra ran in the mid 14's. The USDM 7m supras were high 14 low 15 second cars. There was no stock Mk3 supra that could break into the 13's.

The USDM Mk4 supra (320hp) ran a mid 13. No stock Mk4 supra could break into the 12's.

This man knows his Supras :bigthumbsup:

Ultraperio 02-12-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 44879)
This man knows his Supras :bigthumbsup:

You gotta know what the other guy is running :D

BADDASSC6 02-12-2010 12:33 PM

The nice thing about supras was that they picked up power soo quick. The MkIII where blah. The MkIV were different. They has fuel maps already in the stock ECUs that covered serious boost levels. The 2Jz actually shared most of it's archetecture with toyota's indy car motor.

I personally saw a 2jz put down 430 rwhp with intake, exhast, lockwire on the wastegate, and a boost controller. NO TUNNING. Later that same car had the RPS single turbo kit and was rocking 850 rwhp.

mdpalmer 05-14-2010 04:41 PM

motorweek video w/ early-mid 90's japanese cars
 
Sorry, didn't read the whole thread but I did find this video. Old motorweek episode. Has the 300zx turbo, 3000gt vr-4, mkIV supra, and 3rd gen rx-7, my personal fav :) See 3:25 for the supra section.


$49k (1990's dollars!)
320 hp/315 lb-ft Toyota spec?
5.8 sec 0-60 mph
14.1 @ 105 mph 1/4 mile (we all know that depends heavily on many factors)

I've always like the Supras though, they are mean as hell and it doesn't take much to make a lot of reliable power.

Teddy 10-26-2010 05:49 AM

it is a heavy car...thats the only reason why it ran those time...still one hell of a bad ass car in my opinion


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