I'll be fighting this one
 

I'm doing about 50mph coming home from the gym, driving perfectly safely on Beach Blvd., a large 3 lane road, freshly paved, clear as bell, when officer McDouchebag decides I'm a menace to society and writes me a speeding ticket for 53 in a 35. Mind you, it said 50 mph less than a mile earlier, and this (naturally) was at the bottom of a hill after a bridge.

Where at on beach? You might have got yours where I got mine.

The bastard was waiting on Pacific Ave. You can see the bridge, crossing down under that is where he takes your speed. Whatta a piece of excrement.

The "Speed Limit" on the street is different from the "Maximum Speed" on the freeway. The Speed Limit can be subjectively reasoned, while 1mph over on the freeway cannot.

You should fight it. You'll probably lose for going 20 over, but who knows. Start by pulling up the vehicle code violation and read the language carefully.

Thanks for the tip. Like I said, it was 50 mph very close to this area and no obvious reason for the lower limit (like reducing the number of lanes or going into a residential area) I honestly had no idea it was 35. I thought is was doing the fu*king speed limit. It's just a shake down. Absolutely no difference from the mob.

Definitely fight that - I think you'll have a good shot of beating it.

Fight--- you can only win or lose----meaning there is nothing to lose.:drink:

Well, most of the time when you contest you lose the option to opt for traffic school.

I haven't seen the law, but I think it has the phrase "safe for the conditions" in there or something like that, which is what you should concentrate on proving. Not so much that the posted speed limit is bogus, but the optimal conditions for your rate of speed: large number of lanes, visibility was clear, ground was perfectly dry, it was light outside, not near a school zone, almost no traffic, etc.

I swear that is the same exact place I got mine at. Was he on a bike? Mine was. If you go 1.5 blocks north of there it is a 45mph zone.

I'm sure it's a trap. When he said "I got you for speed" I said, "I was doing 50 in a 50." That's when he said "it's 35" to which I responded, "you guys are unbelievable." At that point I bit my tongue. I really wanted to ask him what it feels like to be an armed robber, or that I have more respect for the mob because at least their honest about extortion. But I really don't want to end up on the news just yet.

I was written for 53 in a 35. That's less than 20. There was NOBODY else on the road within 100s of yards. He was in a car. Probably there all night fattening up on the public.

You need to really look for the posted limit signs in the area to verify the 35 zone. It you need any graphics help let me know.

ALL the tickets i have ever fought, the officer didnt show up, figure he writes 100 tickets a month, he would rather be on that street issuing tickets than going and fighting the tickets, but the speed limit and MAXIMUM speed are different the city has what they call the reasonable and prudent safety speed, each city has its streets divided into zones that surveyors have placed maximum SAFE speed limits for each zone, but citys can adjust them to whatever they'd like, being that this is most likely a speed trap, that entire length of road is most likely a safe speed limit of 70mph and you can DEFINITELY fight it by proving that you may have been speeding according to the posted limit but what you were doing wasnt unsafe, and remember so many departments are under the gun to pull in revenue to keep the officers they currently have that they are pulling people over right and left, i pulled into my shop last thursday night (posted limit of 40mph) and as i was walking inside in my own parking lot he lights me up and tells me to get inside, to make a long story short he was looking for any reason to write me a ticket but couldnt because i was on my own property, shit he even left 2 black stripes when he took off, just be careful out there

I got hit for 52 in the 35. I already went back there and double checked the speed limits and that section is 35mph. A block and a half north of there at La Mirada jumps to 45mph. I forget how far south it's 35mph, but it's for at least a mile or so.

Where I live in Fullerton, just the other day a cop was blasting around on Orangethorpe around residential areas at 60-70, blew a left red, middle of the day, people around . . . no lights or sirens.

They are the law. They do whatever the fuck they want.

I'm not gonna say im not looking forward to it, but its true

Hahahaha.

And if Adam helps you out, let me know if you need help after you're thrown in jail for trying to pull a fast one on the judge.

I was let go for doing 120 in a 35 once...

Need more explanation before I believe that.

My buddy had that sme thing happen only he was doing 150 in a 45. It was back in the early 90's in Diamond Bar. He was going down Diamond Bar Blvd on his new bike and a cop got him on radar. The cop told him that was the fastest he'd ever radared anyone going and let him off with a warning.

The popo are out in mad force. Must have got the directive to go fleece the public. I've never seen as many police pulling people over as I have in the last couple days; streets, freeways, everywhere.

I noticed that on my drive to work tonight. I lost count of how many people I saw pulled over.

It's not just that. We had the city police come through not to long ago for code enforcement. I got a ticket on the Cobra and the Explorer for no front license plates. When I went to the police station a girl that was walking in asked what I got mine for and she said she got one for blocking the sidewalk in front of her driveway. She said her bumper was only over it by about 3 inches but aparently if any part of your vehicle is over it's a ticket. Another one of my neighbors got one for being over 12 inches from the curb on two cars.

I was racing a lancer in my truck, well i had to show him who was boss and took it up to 120 to make my point, well the cop was hiding at the end of the street, lancer took off and he came after me, the cop got out SCREAMING "what the fuck is wrong with you" etc, he demands my information and as im looking for my stuff he notices my background investigation packet (had an appointment in a hour) and asked me if i was going to become a cop i replied i was in the process for LASD, he look at me and said "are you fuckin kidding me" walks back to his car and threw his citation book in the car as hard as possibly, starts to lecture me about how stupid i was etc, says hes going to give me a brake on the speeding but was going to write me up for EVERYTHING wrong with my truck, tinted windows, no front license plate, GPS blocking vision of the windshield, no mud flaps, uncovered fog lights, and excessive smoke, in the end i was glad to have gotten out of the one and that was the last time i ever raced on the street

i got the EXACT ticket 2 weeks ago my trailer hitch on my truck was hanging over the sidewalk and i got a fucking ticket, Kommiefornia is getting bad

Yeah Police State! Seriously, if so many are spending so much time literally just extorting money from the public, umm, maybe we don't need so many. :huh:

I guess those 90% pensions for life don't pay for themselves. :nuts:

Looks like he sympathized with you. You had several arrestable offenses in there btw. And he could have taken your car permanently for racing. The racing is way worse than speeding.

He didnt say anything about the racing, i dont think he even saw the lancer, im very aware at how lucky i was and i make sure i dont EVER do shit like that again

In preparation for contesting this ticket, I need to find the traffic and engineering speed survey to see what it states. If it justifies my speed or is out of date I have a fair chance of fighting. If it's "current" and does not justify my speed (no matter how rational my speed really was), not a lot of hope other than the hail marry the police officer won't respond/show up. So here's the fun part. If it's on streets within a municipality, it will be done by the city (probably) and you'll need to get them from the city. If, however, like Beach Blvd. it's a state hwy., congratulations, you get to try and get it from the correct Dept. within Cal Trans. :nuts:

In the meantime, here's cvc 40802 for a speed trap:

This is the route Im taking. My court date is tomorrow for my "speeding" in the same place.

Excellent. Thank you for the additional info. I'll probably start with a trial by declaration. If that fails you can still ask for a trial in person. In short, you get two shots instead of one.

I got a parking ticket for not turning my wheel towards the curb on an incline. The problem was that it was such a slight incline that I would never have thought to do it. It's total fucking extortion bullshit.


I will say I don't think that they get 90% pension for life. That is very high.

I regret to inform:

3% per year for up to 30 years = 90% of pay at retirement.

That's for life, transferable to spouse after death. Go ahead and plug those numbers in. Enter the force at 20, retire at 50, how long do you think that pension will be drawn?

But wait, there's more. They somehow manage to rather often get promoted into higher paying positions right near the end. But hold on, get a little injury, like a slipped disc, and poof you get that pension . . . tax free. I can go on with how it can get even more grotesque, but I think you get the picture.


Public Servant = Served by the Public

I just looked on google earth and in the SB lanes about 400ft north of the bridge is a 35mph sign on a light pole.
I'm sure thats a big money spot for the a$$holes with guns.

Looks like you just contributed to the BPk treasury.


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My grandfather would hide and take money from people traveling along the highway - he got 20 years.

I don't know if it meets the "legal"definition but it sure is hell is a speed trap.

Not without a fight. I'm anxiously awaiting Damian's result as it looks like he was a victim in the same area.


Don't get me started on the true nature of government. :jester:

If my brother would have staying in CA he would have been able to retire at 51. He always told me that on the average a cop lives 5 years past retirement. I would be curious as to what the average age of retirement for a cop was.

On another note. My co-workers boyfriend's dad was a highly decorated CHP for like 30 years and within a week of retiring he was approached by the Marshals and now pulls down like $75K a year on top of his pension!

My ex-father-in-law, some of you met him on the Planes of Fame trip, Retired from LAPD a Sargent. His Favorite saying is "just send the check" He is 83 now , still packing heat and using his Shield to get out of speeding tickets ! Talk about awesome bennies :lmfao:

Of course, the biggest battle with the ex-wife was her wanting me to ditch my " Blue collar ' career and be a cop. :alert:

Total BS. Though I don't recall the exact number, in CA it's the same as regular people. Also, it's not nearly as dangerous as they'd like to make you believe sometimes, I don't think it even ranks in the top 10 dangerous jobs. Things like being a commercial fisherman are WAY more dangerous.

That was the other part I was avoiding for fear of aneurysm. It gets better, some guys will put 20 years in the military, 25 in as a PO, get two pensions, and get appointed to some "committee" etc., and literally be pulling in 100s of thousands per year. Meanwhile, Rome burns.

Don't get me wrong. I'm an absolute red blooded capitalist. I have no problem with people making good (market dictated) salaries. I have a problem with contractually guaranteed pensions balanced on the back of the tax payer. Make your wage, do what you will with it, like us peasants and save/invest your own money.

I don't really blame people for grabbing low hanging fruit (though I'd rather do essentially anything before working for government . . . I'm an extremist.) I think Bernard Parks, who gets a six figure salary for being on the city council, also gets like a $150k pension or something like that. When asked why he thought that was right he said, "because I could." :judge:

Oh, they also get special privileges there too. CCW is for the asking for them, if they even bother with that. Impossible for a regular citizen in LA.

I'm on about deptarment 73 within Cal Trans trying to get the speed survey.

In the meantime, I wished there could have been a sign like this in that area.

Vettezuki does not quit. I finally got my speed survey today. Haven't looked through it but it is dated February 2003. Have to look up the required time period next.