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Vettezuki 08-05-2010 12:10 AM

Failure to Display Tags
 
Forgot to put 2011 tags on my wife's car. Well, that was a $118 oversight. You've got to be fuc*ing kidding me. My contempt for all things government grows.

SeanPlunk 08-05-2010 09:04 AM

Did she have proof it was current when the cop gave her the ticket?

Vettezuki 08-05-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 56876)
Did she have proof it was current when the cop gave her the ticket?

The ticket was left on her car in a parking lot. :mad:

SeanPlunk 08-05-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 56883)
The ticket was left on her car in a parking lot. :mad:

Yeah, that's a shitty one :suicide:

I think in that case they should give you 30 days to prove your registration was current at the time. If it was, they should excuse the ticket.

Vettezuki 08-05-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 56886)
Yeah, that's a shitty one :suicide:

I think in that case they should give you 30 days to prove your registration was current at the time. If it was, they should excuse the ticket.

Setting aside the curiousness of requiring annual registration in the first place, that'd be sensible enough.

94cobra69ss396 08-05-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 56886)
Yeah, that's a shitty one :suicide:

I think in that case they should give you 30 days to prove your registration was current at the time. If it was, they should excuse the ticket.

I'm pretty sure that if you go to the station and show that the registration was current and that the tag is now on that you won't have to pay the full fine. I know when I got tickets for not having front license plates on the Cobra and Explorer that's all I had to do. It went from an $80 fine to $10.

I still have the one on the Explorer but not the Cobra. I didn't want to dril holes and ruin my front bumper so I just made a bracket that I bolted through the opening in the bumper. Once I got the ticket signed off I removed it when I got home.

injdinjn 08-05-2010 05:11 PM

Cops with the plate scanners are cruising every parking lot they can.

My son got one, for the same reason. I called the city manager and politely told him it was really shitty to be shopping in your city and get a fixit ticket in the shopping center parking lot. Threatened to tell everyone I knew not to shop in that city.
A Lt. called and said to bring the vehicle in with the tag on it and he would dismiss the ticket. And he did. $0.
Just have let them know a BS small change ticket could cost them a lot more in lost revenue.
Contacted the store manager too.

Vettezuki 08-05-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by injdinjn (Post 56912)
Cops with the plate scanners are cruising every parking lot they can.

My son got one, for the same reason. I called the city manager and politely told him it was really shitty to be shopping in your city and get a fixit ticket in the shopping center parking lot. Threatened to tell everyone I knew not to shop in that city.
A Lt. called and said to bring the vehicle in with the tag on it and he would dismiss the ticket. And he did. $0.
Just have let them know a BS small change ticket could cost them a lot more in lost revenue.
Contacted the store manager too.


We own a business in the center. Maybe I'll bitch the landlord as well that potential customers wouldn't be too happy about nonsense tickets. It's total horse shit. I don't even know why cops are on private property. Oh wait, not unlike the mob, they've got to shake down citizens for cash. How could I forget. It's actually worse. When the mob extorts people for protection money they at least keep the riff raff out.

Shaolin Crane 08-05-2010 07:05 PM

Sad to say you still gotta pay a $25 processing fee, all my fixit tickets required this even if they were bullshit in the first place :rant:

Leedom 08-05-2010 11:45 PM

I remember a few months after I got my truck years ago that my dad used it to run over to sears at the Brea mall and a cop wrote me for one. I had gotten the registration the day before and had not opened the mail yet. My dad saw the cop and asked why she wrote me a ticket if she could clearly see the temporary registration slip in the front windshield. She basically said I should of had it by now. I sent in the copy of my registration and temporary registration and a few weeks later a letter saying the ticket was removed.

Chuck 08-06-2010 12:15 AM

Just say you put it on and someone must have pulled it off. You didn't notice it missing and ask if they could tell you how to obtain a replacement one?

Shaolin Crane 08-06-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 56891)
I'm pretty sure that if you go to the station and show that the registration was current and that the tag is now on that you won't have to pay the full fine. I know when I got tickets for not having front license plates on the Cobra and Explorer that's all I had to do. It went from an $80 fine to $10.

I still have the one on the Explorer but not the Cobra. I didn't want to dril holes and ruin my front bumper so I just made a bracket that I bolted through the opening in the bumper. Once I got the ticket signed off I removed it when I got home.

Thats what i do, im not going to queer up the front of my car by drilling holes

Shaolin Crane 08-06-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 56938)
Just say you put it on and someone must have pulled it off. You didn't notice it missing and ask if they could tell you how to obtain a replacement one?

If he does that he will actually have to get a replacement one. Cause they will void the old sticker.

Chuck 08-07-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 56952)
If he does that he will actually have to get a replacement one. Cause they will void the old sticker.

Yeah but it will get him out of the fine.

Shaolin Crane 08-07-2010 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 56997)
Yeah but it will get him out of the fine.

Oh, he'll get out of the fine im sure, but either way he's going to pay a fee, either a processing fee or a tag reissue fee, welcome to the Republic of Kommiefornia, district of americastan

Chuck 08-07-2010 06:38 PM

Thats fuc#ed if they make you pay a fine because some a$$hole takes your tags off your plate.

Shaolin Crane 08-08-2010 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 57015)
Thats fuc#ed if they make you pay a fine because some a$ takes your tags off your plate.

its not a fine, its a "processing fee"

Vettezuki 08-08-2010 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 56999)
. . . welcome to the Republic of Kommiefornia, district of americastan

Must.Resist.Temptation.

Shaolin Crane 08-08-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57021)
Must.Resist.Temptation.

Let it out Ben. Tell us how you feel.... :p

Chuck 08-08-2010 11:45 AM

F the man!!!

Vettezuki 08-08-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57028)
Let it out Ben. Tell us how you feel.... :p

I'll be applying for CA DOJ and ATF permits pretty soon. It's probably best I keep some of my opinions to myself. :D

Chuck 08-08-2010 09:25 PM

Yeah good idea for our sakes?

Shaolin Crane 08-08-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57035)
I'll be applying for CA DOJ and ATF permits pretty soon. It's probably best I keep some of my opinions to myself. :D

good luck, you're gonna need it :(

Vettezuki 08-08-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57047)
good luck, you're gonna need it :(

I have a sparkling clean record and can do the Bureaucratic tango with the best of them. Combined with being persistent and annoying when I want something, I am a worthy adversary. :sm_laughing:

Shaolin Crane 08-09-2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57060)
I have a sparkling clean record and can do the Bureaucratic tango with the best of them. Combined with being persistent and annoying when I want something, I am a worthy adversary. :sm_laughing:

Yes but you're overlooking the states ability to say "No" with no explanation and completely ignore your paperwork,

Vettezuki 08-09-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57079)
Yes but you're overlooking the states ability to say "No" with no explanation and completely ignore your paperwork,

Well, the CA DOJ left a message with me this morning saying that (to my surprise) for my scale of intended operation there are no license/permit requirements. Just have to check with the city of intended base of operations what their ordinances are. Still have to check with the ATF and get some insurance quotes. It's really the insurance side that could be a deal breaker.

Shaolin Crane 08-09-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57109)
Well, the CA DOJ left a message with me this morning saying that (to my surprise) for my scale of intended operation there are no license/permit requirements. Just have to check with the city of intended base of operations what their ordinances are. Still have to check with the ATF and get some insurance quotes. It's really the insurance side that could be a deal breaker.

You could still do everything right, and they would still so "No" without an explanation, we've gone through it before, with our FFL, CCW and other permits in cali

Vettezuki 08-09-2010 01:58 PM

Just witnessed a fat gelatinous POS writing up out of date tags in a grocery store parking lot. The fu*kers have the unmitigated audacity to write "Commitment to Service" on the side of their cars. Should say "Commitment to Armed Robbery". This is in a city where the city hall and Police Department have brand new fantastic facilities where the working public is struggling to eek out an existence. What a joke. . .

Vettezuki 08-09-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57113)
You could still do everything right, and they would still so "No" without an explanation, we've gone through it before, with our FFL, CCW and other permits in cali

Well, they made the mistake of leaving a message on my phone stating they were from the DOJ and that they don't really regulate what I'm asking about. In other words, I don't even need their "permission". If they want to take me to court later, that will be some helpful evidence. :) Now I have no idea about the ATF, but at least this initial hurtle is cleared to my satisfaction in order to proceed.

Shaolin Crane 08-09-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57117)
Well, they made the mistake of leaving a message on my phone stating they were from the DOJ and that they don't really regulate what I'm asking about. In other words, I don't even need their "permission". If they want to take me to court later, that will be some helpful evidence. :) Now I have no idea about the ATF, but at least this initial hurtle is cleared to my satisfaction in order to proceed.

Oh trust me, they are veryt careful how they disqualify people. I've heard the following
-Reached the maximum number of applicants
-Are no longer accepting applications
-Improperly filled out paperwork (bullshit)
-Suspicious application
etc etc, get the idea?
Sucks, but im just saying dont get your hopes up.

Shaolin Crane 08-09-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57114)
Just witnessed a fat gelatinous POS writing up out of date tags in a grocery store parking lot. The fu*kers have the unmitigated audacity to write "Commitment to Service" on the side of their cars. Should say "Commitment to Armed Robbery". This is in a city where the city hall and Police Department have brand new fantastic facilities where the working public is struggling to eek out an existence. What a joke. . .

Damn, way to make me feel like a POS :( :jester:

Vettezuki 08-09-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57120)
Damn, way to make me feel like a POS :( :jester:

I thought you were just thinking about being a cop to become an official DT instructor someday. :huh:

I do feel sorry for the good cops (yes, they exist) who enter law enforcement to actually "protect and serve". I have no problem with the proper function of police. I have a big problem with the way we organize and fund police. The incentives are all lined up to abusing the public for non-crimes as much as anything. Throw in jerks on a power trip and it just sucks. Doug Marianni and at least one other guy on here were long time POs and they're great guys. In my ideal world, I'd be happy to pay a fee to the Doug Mariani Police to protect my property/neighborhood, etc. This is a whole other discussion.

Shaolin Crane 08-09-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57123)
I thought you were just thinking about being a cop to become an official DT instructor someday. :huh:

I do feel sorry for the good cops (yes, they exist) who enter law enforcement to actually "protect and serve". I have no problem with the proper function of police. I have a big problem with the way we organize and fund police. The incentives are all lined up to abusing the public for non-crimes as much as anything. Throw in jerks on a power trip and it just sucks. Doug Marianni and at least one other guy on here were long time POs and they're great guys. In my ideal world, I'd be happy to pay a fee to the Doug Mariani Police to protect my property/neighborhood, etc. This is a whole other discussion.

I am, but i will still wear a badge for sometime before that day.

Vettezuki 08-09-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57131)
I am, but i will still wear a badge for sometime before that day.

Just be a good cop, protecting the weak, and not lording your power over your (occasionally reluctant) employers and it's cool. If I'm successful with my anarchist revolution (peaceful, I'm not a bomb chucker :lmfao:) , I'll help you start your own police company. :pot_stir: :drink:

Shaolin Crane 08-10-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 57137)
Just be a good cop, protecting the weak, and not lording your power over your (occasionally reluctant) employers and it's cool. If I'm successful with my anarchist revolution (peaceful, I'm not a bomb chucker :lmfao:) , I'll help you start your own police company. :pot_stir: :drink:

?

:pot_stir:

Vettezuki 08-10-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 57246)
?

:pot_stir:

Not quite like that. There needs to be considerably more separation between the establishment of law (legal theory), interpretation of law (judges/arbiters), and enforcement of law. If you want to a wear a cod piece though, we could probably work something out. :judge:

enkeivette 08-19-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 56858)
Forgot to put 2011 tags on my wife's car. Well, that was a $118 oversight. You've got to be fuc*ing kidding me. My contempt for all things government grows.

Isn't that a correctable violation?

Vettezuki 08-20-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 57883)
Isn't that a correctable violation?

Yes. It was a little unclear. The ticket indicated $108 + $10 for the processing. When going to the station to get it cleared (I wasn't there) they said to send in the $10 for processing. Maybe because it was done within some time window. :huh:

94cobra69ss396 08-20-2010 07:12 AM

I just got another ticket on the Cobra for no front license plate. It's a $78 fine or $10 if I go and get it signed off. On the ticket it shows that expired tags ($78) is also a fix-it ticket that is only $10 if it is signed off as is expired registration ($104). I just have to go to the local police station to have it signed off and I pay them the $10 then. At least that's the way they do it here in Fontana.

Shaolin Crane 08-21-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 57898)
I just got another ticket on the Cobra for no front license plate. It's a $78 fine or $10 if I go and get it signed off. On the ticket it shows that expired tags ($78) is also a fix-it ticket that is only $10 if it is signed off as is expired registration ($104). I just have to go to the local police station to have it signed off and I pay them the $10 then. At least that's the way they do it here in Fontana.

same here in Covina, i get a no front license plate ticket, i put it back on, get it signed off, then take it off. Very simple, its more worth it to pay the $10 every time than it is to have a front plate


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