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enkeivette 11-04-2010 08:55 PM

OBDII CARB compliant cat?
 
I was looking at getting a 3" OBDII cat. I was reading the description and I noticed this one is OBDII but it excludes CA.

Would you fail someone for having something like this? ...I hope you are the smog tech guy. Haha.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tchlink:top:en

enkeivette 11-04-2010 08:57 PM

And what would I/ you look for to make sure it's CA legal?

enkeivette 11-04-2010 09:08 PM

Check out the disclaimer at the bottom of this page
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/41030...item20af016af9

SeanPlunk 11-04-2010 09:15 PM

I know a guy that won't even look. As long as it has cats and passes the sniffer you're good.

blackax 11-04-2010 10:27 PM

In CA you cant go with any cat that isnt stock to that car....Thats why long tubes are a no go for CA

Vettezuki 11-04-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackax (Post 62373)
In CA you cant go with any cat that isnt stock to that car....Thats why long tubes are a no go for CA

There are now Magnaflow OE replacements. But I think there's technically a required process of a smog tech practically signing and affadavit as to why you need them.

LTs are illegal even if you get the OE cats on them (fabbing). As I recall it's primarily because of the resulting "relocation" of smog equipment: cats and O2 sensors.

kdracer will know the details or if I'm total full of shi*.

enkeivette 11-05-2010 12:59 AM

I wonder if I can cut the stock 2 1/2" cat in half and weld the shell around a high flow 3" one.

Sean, does your guy charge more?

BRIAN 11-05-2010 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 62370)
I know a guy that won't even look. As long as it has cats and passes the sniffer you're good.

Same here, my tech will just shove the sniffer down the tail. Doesn't care how outrages your mods are as long as you pass. The way it should be....

SeanPlunk 11-05-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 62375)
I wonder if I can cut the stock 2 1/2" cat in half and weld the shell around a high flow 3" one.

Sean, does your guy charge more?

No :drink:

enkeivette 11-05-2010 09:28 AM

Is this guy a test only tech?

blackax 11-05-2010 09:51 AM

I dont think i've ever been to a smog tech that has ever cared about whats under my hood as long as it pass the sniff test

SeanPlunk 11-05-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 62395)
Is this guy a test only tech?

Yes.

enkeivette 11-05-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 62402)
Yes.

Wow.

kdracer73 11-05-2010 11:11 AM

page 4 of this doc gives the guidelines of inspection/ID of installed cats

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...%2012-2009.pdf

jedhead 11-05-2010 12:29 PM

I have had techs who would not test me because of the headers on my SHO. None has ever said anything about my custom y-pipe with the magnaflow cats.

Bob

kdracer73 11-05-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jedhead (Post 62411)
I have had techs who would not test me because of the headers on my SHO. None has ever said anything about my custom y-pipe with the magnaflow cats.

Bob

The new spec took effect Jan 2009. If they where installed before the rule change..grandfathered in. The cats will have a date stamp they are supposed to check.

I used to get a cat, pre obd2, installed , for 120 bucks. They are outlawed now. My cost installed on my daughters 87 Volvo was 300+ bucks

Sonic03SVT 11-07-2010 09:22 PM

Magnaflow does make OBD2 certified, carb compliant cats. They do come with a form ( carbon copies, in triplicate, no less ) That the installation tech has to fill out for you, basically saying that the car is A. old enough or B. has enough miles on it to make getting a new cat beneficial, and then you have to keep a copy of said form, as does the shop, for perusal by agents of the nanny state.

They are actually fairly affordable though, surprisingly. I can get pretty good prices on them generally through a supplier we use at work, so let me know and ill see what i can do. (Just need a general application, pref. make model, but can also use dimensions )

enkeivette 11-08-2010 10:09 AM

Basically the car Im looking at has an offroad 3" downpipe. I was hoping to weld in a 3" cat and make it legal, rather than having to swap the 2.5" stock pipe in.

I wonder if I could cut the mouth of the stock cat open a bit for the 3" pipe. Dumb idea? Think they'd pass it?

Sonic03SVT 11-08-2010 06:28 PM

all depends on the tech. they could definitely fail you if they see a non-stock cat in there, if you dont have the requisite paperwork.


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