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Old 01-25-2009, 06:15 PM   #401
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I meant rich, but I CAN'T EDIT.
Don't know why you can't edit, and neither does TT. He said he didn't change anything on VM. I'll look into it more, but it's weird. What exact browers are you using?
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:19 PM   #402
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I would do that anyhow.
Ok. As for balancing I'll ask around and see how much balancing is. Maybe get a new set of pistons if we're going NA.
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:55 PM   #403
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Don't know why you can't edit, and neither does TT. He said he didn't change anything on VM. I'll look into it more, but it's weird. What exact browers are you using?
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Ok. As for balancing I'll ask around and see how much balancing is. Maybe get a new set of pistons if we're going NA.
Should be $200-300. Used to be a place in Santa Ana. Ask Glenn.
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Old 01-25-2009, 07:52 PM   #405
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Joe,

Before I go pricing balancing services, was this motor balanced when you had it assembled. I see you have an aftermarket Pro Street balancer.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:03 PM   #406
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Before I go pricing balancing services, was this motor balanced when you had it assembled. I see you have an aftermarket Pro Street balancer.

That engine is balanced.
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That engine is balanced.
Ok then. If we can't fix the 174, and we go NA, we'll put in a gnarly flat tappet solid cam. I'll depend on you guys for proper break-in and learning how to check and maintain the valve train.

Joe,
Do remember the static compression of this engine with the E6 heads?
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:35 PM   #408
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Default Drop Dead Date for 174

If we can't find the necessary parts to repair the 174 by the Feb. 8 LB Swap Meet, we'll be going down the high strung NA route.
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:09 PM   #409
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Breaking in the engine is easy don't worry about it. If we do go N/A, we're going to want to add a little more compression. I think Joe said that the engine had around 9:1 which is on the low side for N/A. I think something around 12:1 would be right and we should run it on 100 octane. We will have to have the rotating assembly rebalanced if we change the pistons. I only paid $150 when I did the forged pistons in the Cobra.
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Breaking in the engine is easy don't worry about it. If we do go N/A, we're going to want to add a little more compression. I think Joe said that the engine had around 9:1 which is on the low side for N/A. I think something around 12:1 would be right and we should run it on 100 octane. We will have to have the rotating assembly rebalanced if we change the pistons. I only paid $150 when I did the forged pistons in the Cobra.

$150 for the balancing or $150 for the pistons? It's not a big deal, just working out pricing for cost benefit for maximum ROI. The place where I bought the heads has their own fully balanced, fully forged stroker kits for about $1,400. This is the absolute outer limits of what I'd even consider, but if a set of pistons and balancing run up past $500, I'd at least think about it.

If we go hi-comp NA, I'd like to go E85. It costs nearly half what 100 octane does, has about 105 octane, and has other nice attributes. Quickfuel has conversion kits for 4150 Holley carbs. I *think* E85 means we could go even a little higher than 12:1. A big cammed, high reving 13.x:1 302 in a 2,500lbs car should move.
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