[Shaolin Crane]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Fine. As for events with a driver max limit and we already have more than that, we can draw straws, or do qualifying at another track, or some kind of wild card combination, we can figure that out as we approach it.

Or build a second car.




Let's start with one.

I'd have no issue stepping aside for her to get the chance to drive

[luder_5555]

Fine. As for events with a driver max limit and we already have more than that, we can draw straws, or do qualifying at another track, or some kind of wild card combination, we can figure that out as we approach it.

I have a feeling that as things progress, some people will drop out, and some people will get busy with other things. If it get's to the end and we have too many people I'd be fine with some sort of qualifying, but honestly if we are running anywhere close to personal best lap times during the race, we are going to go through way too many tires. Consistency, smooth driving, ability to pass without crashing, be passed without crashing, and conserving tires and fuel while still driving competitive times are what a 24hr race is really about. Unless it comes down to a battle for position on the last stint, who can set the fastest lap is very irrelevant to this type of racing.

[Shaolin Crane]

Originally Posted by luder_5555

I have a feeling that as things progress, some people will drop out, and some people will get busy with other things. If it get's to the end and we have too many people I'd be fine with some sort of qualifying, but honestly if we are running anywhere close to personal best lap times during the race, we are going to go through way too many tires. Consistency, smooth driving, ability to pass without crashing, be passed without crashing, and conserving tires and fuel while still driving competitive times are what a 24hr race is really about. Unless it comes down to a battle for position on the last stint, who can set the fastest lap is very irrelevant to this type of racing.

Carlos, Ron and myself wont follow those rules for damn sure.

[luder_5555]

Well we should budget for a few extra sets of tires then...

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by luder_5555

Just a quick question, has everyone who wants to be a driver have a good amount of seat time on track? And of those who do, do they have any wheel to wheel with open passing experience?

If the answer to either of these questions is no, then one of the things that we/they do sometime between now and next December is get some serious seat time, and some wheel to wheel action. Heck even W2W kart racing will help significantly with overtaking, and being passed.

The reason that I ask is that with the time, effort, and money that everyone who stays involved will eventually be putting in, it would suck to have a novice driver go out and total the car half way through the race, and it would be even worse if that were to happen before one of the drivers even got any seat time.

No.
As far as I know, BADASSC6 is the most experienced and would meet that criteria at a high level. Other than that, I don't know.

Ron is mentally unstable and very fast, but I don't think he has much wheel to wheel on a track.

You and Shaolin Crane seem to have some experience, but I don't know what.

Other than that, including myself, my brother Vanessa (I assume), basically Novices.

Part of THE point of the car is to give some a platform for gaining experience, first at places like Adam's, and AutoX, then maybe other starter events. This is also why I'm pushing a little NOW orienting to an event more than a year away.

[Shaolin Crane]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

No.
As far as I know, BADASSC6 is the most experienced and would meet that criteria at a high level. Other than that, I don't know.

Ron is mentally unstable and very fast, but I don't think he has much wheel to wheel on a track.

You and Shaolin Crane seem to have some experience, but I don't know what.

Other than that, including myself, my brother Vanessa (I assume), basically Novices.

Part of THE point of the car is to give some a platform for gaining experience, first at places like Adam's, and AutoX, then maybe other starter events. This is also why I'm pushing a little NOW orienting to an event more than a year away.

Vanessa is surprisingly talented for such a novice driver, with a damn near perfect reaction time as well, she was only about a second behind my times when we go karting.

I'm a bit unstable when driving too, i'd like to think it takes some talent to drift a 11,000lb truck on the freeway

[luder_5555]

^ If someone wants to buy tires, I have a dependable little Miata that has seen thousands of track miles it we wanted to get some driving experience. Though Your going to have to be about my height and weight since the race seat in it doesn't move forwards and backwards, and the seat is slightly narrow.

I am all for getting the fox up and running, then doing several track days to dial in the car and drivers. There are several groups that do $95-100 track days at some of the various willow springs tracks. It might be a bit hard on the car doing session after session, but it couldn't be any harder than 24 hours straight.

Auto-x is good for the extreme novices, but won't help us much in getting ready for an actual race.

And I have always wanted to have one car that I an several other people have gotten to drive on the same day. It is one thing comparing cars with similar mods, but who really knows how evenly prepped the cars actually are. I could see some good healthy competition brewing.

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by luder_5555

. . . Consistency, smooth driving, ability to pass without crashing, be passed without crashing, and conserving tires and fuel while still driving competitive times are what a 24hr race is really about.

Having done endurance events (triathlon) and hundred mile bike rides for fun, I think I have the right mindset for getting into endurance car racing. Conservation of limited resources while maximizing performance is an art and discipline, regardless what it is. Undisciplined balls to the wall means you end up puking your guts out on the side of the road, or crashing, or breaking shit, etc.

I know for a fact Ron and Carlos can be fast as hell . . but conservation doesn't come to mind.

Also, it's clear, two hour stins behind a wheel require some actual physical fitness. Pro drivers are REAL athletes for a reason. Even at this small level, the Gs are going to add up (thousands of times), then there's the bashing of the senses, the noise, the heat, the fumes. . . it is battle. Sounds fun.

[luder_5555]

And a second is a damn long time depending on the kart track. I'm about a half second off my friends times when we go karting together. It doesn't help that I try to drive it the same as my Miata, or that he is a former National indoor kart champion, but those half seconds turn into a half a damn lap fairly quickly on a small course...

[Shaolin Crane]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Also, it's clear, two hour stins behind a wheel require some actual physical fitness. Pro drivers are REAL athletes for a reason. Even at this small level, the Gs are going to add up (thousands of times), then there's the bashing of the senses, the noise, the heat, the fumes. . . it is battle. Sounds fun

I think thats the thing im most set up for, it'll be a walk in the park compared to getting your faced pounded into the concrete by 4 3rd degree black belts.

Anyone is welcome to do some fitness training with me to get in shape